Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn, the creators and stars of Apple TV's Pluribus, share their creative process and the deep connection they've forged through their collaboration. They discuss the importance of their rapport, which began on the set of Better Call Saul, and how it has influenced their approach to Pluribus. Gilligan and Seehorn reveal their unique shorthand, which allows them to intuit each other's moves, and the efficiency it brings to their creative process. They also delve into their individual relationships with their characters, Carol Sturka and Kim Wexler, exploring the complexities of their personalities and the lessons they've learned from each other. The interview highlights the importance of trust, risk-taking, and the power of collaboration in the creative process, as well as the joy of crafting compelling stories and characters.